Sunday, February 20, 2005
Friday, February 18, 2005
Mr. Yakub and the Making of the Devil
The following is from a letter Amir Fatir wrote to a correspondent who requested his views on Yakub and the making of the Devil.
To read more of his writings, go here: http://amirfatir.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/fatir1.htm
I believe the History of Mr. Yakub to be wholly spiritual and symbolic, using physical White people to represent mental functions and states of mind. This is not unprecedented. The ancient Egyptian Kings were often depicted "smiting" foreign barbarians who were symbols of the wild passions in the Egyptian people, not actual physical conquests.
The Egyptian Kings "battles" were often against the "Asiatics". They symbolized people stuck at the Assiah plane of development, i.e., savages. The lower appetites were the actual Asiatics.
Master Fard and The Honorable Elijah Muhammad used the same approach. Fard called White people "cave men" and "cavey." It refers to underground (subconscious) influences that operate in the dark (ignorance).
Yakub represents the left hemisphere of the brain and its related mental activities. He had "an 8 ounce brain" because the left brain corresponds to the 8th sphere of the Tree of Life.
Yakub was a "big hearted scientist," meaning he symbolized extreme left-brained arrogance, vanity and unrelenting pride.
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught that the Black man has a 7 ½ ounce brain "while the White man has a 6 ounce brain." Well, put similarly sized people's brains on a scale and you'll see that brains weigh pretty much the same.
Seven and a half breaths per minute induce trance. The alpha brain wave (trance) pattern is thus symbolized as the size of the Black man's brain. "Black" man symbolizes the deep trance state.
Now the alleged making of the devil... it refers to the ego supplanting the former rule or predominance of the right brain hemisphere. The individual "I" and sense of separateness is a grafted "add on to the original human consciousness. This puny little ego -- created by maya, separate-ness and "tricknology" (i.e. "Yakub) is the real devil (enemy, adversary) and is symbolized by the White man.
Yakub is the modern version of the trickster gods that have been depicted throughout the world: Coyote, Set, Satan, Sebek, Hanuman, Mescalito, Kweku, Ansi, etc. They are usually stylised as canines, so The Honorable Elijah Muhammad emphasized how the White man befriended the dog while in the caves of Europe. This is all symbolic wisdom and the great teachers were not allowed to tell anyone that it was symbolic. To do so would destroy the cleansing effect the teachings were to have on Whites and Blacks alike.
I only decipher the symbols now because it's time to bring in the New Islam.. Those teachings -- minus the correct interpretation -- can no longer produce highly evolved women and men the way they once did in the '50's, 60's and 70's. Unfortunately, they now sometimes become words people use to "shield their own dirty religion" under the Honorable Elijah Muhammad's good name.
The real purpose of Fard Muhammad was to provide the spiritual scientific framework for you and me to become gods and goddesses. It is not enough to praise the messenger and the Saviour. You and me must become "God in Person." You have to be able to truthfully say: "My name is W.F. Muhammad. I came to North America by myself (my Soul)."
We are constantly making the devil whenever we feed and nourish our lower selves and animal appetites. When we allow our egos to rule, instead of bringing our egos into submission to the indwelling divinity (Master Fard, Osiris, Shiva, Obatallah, etc.) we are grafting a devil.
Physical white people are not any more or less evil than physical Black people. Any person of any skin color can become devilish by the thoughts, emotions, feelings and actions they indulge.
Any person of any color can become "a true and living god" by the thoughts, emotions, feelings and actions they indulge.
To read more of his writings, go here: http://amirfatir.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/fatir1.htm
I believe the History of Mr. Yakub to be wholly spiritual and symbolic, using physical White people to represent mental functions and states of mind. This is not unprecedented. The ancient Egyptian Kings were often depicted "smiting" foreign barbarians who were symbols of the wild passions in the Egyptian people, not actual physical conquests.
The Egyptian Kings "battles" were often against the "Asiatics". They symbolized people stuck at the Assiah plane of development, i.e., savages. The lower appetites were the actual Asiatics.
Master Fard and The Honorable Elijah Muhammad used the same approach. Fard called White people "cave men" and "cavey." It refers to underground (subconscious) influences that operate in the dark (ignorance).
Yakub represents the left hemisphere of the brain and its related mental activities. He had "an 8 ounce brain" because the left brain corresponds to the 8th sphere of the Tree of Life.
Yakub was a "big hearted scientist," meaning he symbolized extreme left-brained arrogance, vanity and unrelenting pride.
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught that the Black man has a 7 ½ ounce brain "while the White man has a 6 ounce brain." Well, put similarly sized people's brains on a scale and you'll see that brains weigh pretty much the same.
Seven and a half breaths per minute induce trance. The alpha brain wave (trance) pattern is thus symbolized as the size of the Black man's brain. "Black" man symbolizes the deep trance state.
Now the alleged making of the devil... it refers to the ego supplanting the former rule or predominance of the right brain hemisphere. The individual "I" and sense of separateness is a grafted "add on to the original human consciousness. This puny little ego -- created by maya, separate-ness and "tricknology" (i.e. "Yakub) is the real devil (enemy, adversary) and is symbolized by the White man.
Yakub is the modern version of the trickster gods that have been depicted throughout the world: Coyote, Set, Satan, Sebek, Hanuman, Mescalito, Kweku, Ansi, etc. They are usually stylised as canines, so The Honorable Elijah Muhammad emphasized how the White man befriended the dog while in the caves of Europe. This is all symbolic wisdom and the great teachers were not allowed to tell anyone that it was symbolic. To do so would destroy the cleansing effect the teachings were to have on Whites and Blacks alike.
I only decipher the symbols now because it's time to bring in the New Islam.. Those teachings -- minus the correct interpretation -- can no longer produce highly evolved women and men the way they once did in the '50's, 60's and 70's. Unfortunately, they now sometimes become words people use to "shield their own dirty religion" under the Honorable Elijah Muhammad's good name.
The real purpose of Fard Muhammad was to provide the spiritual scientific framework for you and me to become gods and goddesses. It is not enough to praise the messenger and the Saviour. You and me must become "God in Person." You have to be able to truthfully say: "My name is W.F. Muhammad. I came to North America by myself (my Soul)."
We are constantly making the devil whenever we feed and nourish our lower selves and animal appetites. When we allow our egos to rule, instead of bringing our egos into submission to the indwelling divinity (Master Fard, Osiris, Shiva, Obatallah, etc.) we are grafting a devil.
Physical white people are not any more or less evil than physical Black people. Any person of any skin color can become devilish by the thoughts, emotions, feelings and actions they indulge.
Any person of any color can become "a true and living god" by the thoughts, emotions, feelings and actions they indulge.
Tuesday, February 15, 2005
"The stone that the builders refuse will be the head cornerstone"
response by UniverseSeven to my essay on Rastas, Gnostic Christianity, Freemasonry & The Stone the Builders Refused-
The apparent connection between Rastafarianism and the occult groups you named are because, as I stated above, the occult Knowledge is based on the Original Knowledge with fatal flaws/twists/changes; Rastas are students of the Original Knowledge and therein lies the connection.
The Bob Marley song quote (He wrote the song based on quotes from Jesus about the Cornertsone/Keystone) is implying that the Black Man is the Conerstone and that the builders of this world need the stone for the foundation to be solid, but the conerstone will be refused. Thus this world is coming to an end because the builders of this world will not choose,acknowledge the Stone that is the Truth, because the world they have built goes against the very Truth that is the key.
Original Masonry or Knowledge based in Truth is inherently good.
P+E(AC)=E
The apparent connection between Rastafarianism and the occult groups you named are because, as I stated above, the occult Knowledge is based on the Original Knowledge with fatal flaws/twists/changes; Rastas are students of the Original Knowledge and therein lies the connection.
The Bob Marley song quote (He wrote the song based on quotes from Jesus about the Cornertsone/Keystone) is implying that the Black Man is the Conerstone and that the builders of this world need the stone for the foundation to be solid, but the conerstone will be refused. Thus this world is coming to an end because the builders of this world will not choose,acknowledge the Stone that is the Truth, because the world they have built goes against the very Truth that is the key.
Original Masonry or Knowledge based in Truth is inherently good.
P+E(AC)=E
Supreme Mathematics
(1) Knowledge- is the accumulation of facts through observing, learning, and respecting. Knowledge is the foundation of all in existence, for it must be "known" in order to make it manifest. Knowledge is the "light" given off by our sun, which is the foundation of our solar system. Also the original man who is the foundation of Allahs family.
(2) Wisdom-is wise-words being spoken, or to speak knowledge (wise-dome meaning a wise-mind), and act according to it. Wisdom is water, or the vital building block of life. Wisdom is the original woman because through her cipher (womb) life is continued. It is also a reflection of one's knowledge, and is shown and proven by the moon being a reflection of the Sun's light (knowledge). Knowledge + the reflection of Knowledge = Wisdom (1+1=2).
(3) Understanding- is that which shows and proves the completion of knowledge and wisdom (man, woman, child). Understanding is a clear mental comprehension. It is the original child which is the star. The highest form of understanding is love, the bond between man and woman, or knowledge and wisdom.
(4) Culture/Freedom- Culture is one's way of living. Meaning one's language (wisdom), and customs (ways and actions). Freedom, is to have a 'free-dome', or to lack restraints. The Original man's culture is Islam (freedom, justice, and equality), which is peace.
(5) Power/Refinement- Power is force or creative energy. To "refine" is to perfect. Power is the truth which is Allah's mathematics. To Knowledge the Culture of Islam is to have Power.
(6) Equality- is the state, or quality of being equal. Meaning to deal equally with all in existence. Equality is achieved by teaching others Knowledge and Wisdom, making it Understood through understanding.
(7) GOD- Allah is god. The supreme being, black man who is the original, is god, Allah, lord of all the worlds, supreme ruler of the universe which is everything, sun, moon, and stars (god is the sun in the solar system, woman is moon, child is star).
(8) Build/Destroy- To build is to elevate the mentality of self, and others around self. To add-on positive energy to Allahs nation. To destroy is to ruin by allowing negativity to outweigh the positive.
(9) Born- is the completion of all in existence. To manifest from Knowledge to Born, which is the law of mathematics. To be complete in itself.
(O) Cipher- is a whole. All in existence pertains to a cipher.
(2) Wisdom-is wise-words being spoken, or to speak knowledge (wise-dome meaning a wise-mind), and act according to it. Wisdom is water, or the vital building block of life. Wisdom is the original woman because through her cipher (womb) life is continued. It is also a reflection of one's knowledge, and is shown and proven by the moon being a reflection of the Sun's light (knowledge). Knowledge + the reflection of Knowledge = Wisdom (1+1=2).
(3) Understanding- is that which shows and proves the completion of knowledge and wisdom (man, woman, child). Understanding is a clear mental comprehension. It is the original child which is the star. The highest form of understanding is love, the bond between man and woman, or knowledge and wisdom.
(4) Culture/Freedom- Culture is one's way of living. Meaning one's language (wisdom), and customs (ways and actions). Freedom, is to have a 'free-dome', or to lack restraints. The Original man's culture is Islam (freedom, justice, and equality), which is peace.
(5) Power/Refinement- Power is force or creative energy. To "refine" is to perfect. Power is the truth which is Allah's mathematics. To Knowledge the Culture of Islam is to have Power.
(6) Equality- is the state, or quality of being equal. Meaning to deal equally with all in existence. Equality is achieved by teaching others Knowledge and Wisdom, making it Understood through understanding.
(7) GOD- Allah is god. The supreme being, black man who is the original, is god, Allah, lord of all the worlds, supreme ruler of the universe which is everything, sun, moon, and stars (god is the sun in the solar system, woman is moon, child is star).
(8) Build/Destroy- To build is to elevate the mentality of self, and others around self. To add-on positive energy to Allahs nation. To destroy is to ruin by allowing negativity to outweigh the positive.
(9) Born- is the completion of all in existence. To manifest from Knowledge to Born, which is the law of mathematics. To be complete in itself.
(O) Cipher- is a whole. All in existence pertains to a cipher.
Peace, Light & Overstanding
When I was a kid, I remember being enamored with the concept of organic morality...what feels good(not sensually) but what you know in your heart/conscience/soul to be good IS GOOD...I know how it feels to be in conflict with yourself, making decisions that are harmful and self-destructive. I can't imagine how it would feel to do another man serious harm or death...I know it would not feel good whether it was in self-defense or whatever the context. Basically, I feel the golden rule/karma-dharma/ Qur’an 42.30 provides all the morality any sentient being needs...Overstanding cause and effect, the reaction your action will produce is not arguing hypotheticals or moral relativism...I think we are all endowed with the innate ability to discern right from wrong action...true, one's upbringing, parents, family, community all have huge influences on our ultimate morality/code of ethics...the most negative influence is our CULTURE of convinience and mindless entertainment, where children's creativity and free thought is stifled by their passive role in being entertained by media with no value or substance...I think it is through play that our morality is most powerfully shaped...in competitions, games and play acting situations to mimic what surrounds us.
Relativism seems closer to a Non-Aristolean understanding of the universe...for how many millenia has it been A or B? white or black? good or evil? Now as physics moves toward quantum mechanical models...This statement is neither true nor false but contains a degree of truth and a degree of fallacy...Quantum mechanics is aiming to see the A/B dichotomy along a gradiation...It is said that once in contact however brief and however long ago, atoms will share an inextricable record of the contact...I don't see relativism as an excuse for wrong action, it is more of an overstanding that "to every worker, his due wages" as the masons say...We reap what we sow, so the more we become conscious of the divinity inside all living beings the more impossible it becomes to harm or destroy that spark in yourself or others
Relativism seems closer to a Non-Aristolean understanding of the universe...for how many millenia has it been A or B? white or black? good or evil? Now as physics moves toward quantum mechanical models...This statement is neither true nor false but contains a degree of truth and a degree of fallacy...Quantum mechanics is aiming to see the A/B dichotomy along a gradiation...It is said that once in contact however brief and however long ago, atoms will share an inextricable record of the contact...I don't see relativism as an excuse for wrong action, it is more of an overstanding that "to every worker, his due wages" as the masons say...We reap what we sow, so the more we become conscious of the divinity inside all living beings the more impossible it becomes to harm or destroy that spark in yourself or others
Sunday, February 13, 2005
Scissor Sisters Cut Down Competition at Brit Awards
Scissor Sisters was the big winner at the Brit Awards, winning three honors Wednesday night in London. The New York-based dance/rock group won for best international group, breakthrough act and album at the Brit Awards, the British equivalent of the Grammys. The awards reflected the group's massive appeal in Britain, where "Scissor Sisters" was the best-selling album of 2004.
Thursday, February 03, 2005
I’m the guerilla in your midst,
situations deep like an abyss,
with this hyperactive vocabulary blitz,
unfamiliar like cinnamon on grits,
all the truth I understand is this,
God lives behind all our faces,
So what a disgrace it is to see
All these racists who still believe in races,
giving power to the labels that divide and displace us,
reactionary like acids and bases,
I’m sick of ignorant complacence,
A new age is dawning, this Aquarius morning,
New thoughts are forming like killer bees swarming,
bruised hearts are longing for something more than
soulless 9-5 until you’re not even alive,
but exploiting dreams is not a means no matter what the end is,
I hope they break me before I bend to fit their Barbie and Ken visions of happiness,
caught up in a trap the moment you kiss,
because if truth is light then society’s the black hole,
and I can’t seem to escape it’s gravitational pull.
So desperate to escape this life without a shape, feeling mentally raped.
Sinking so fast in these sands of time,
losing all my reasons just to find these rhymes.
No shoulders to cry on, no love to survive on, only the lies that go on and on.
So what should I do and to who should I turn,
when the only family I got left is my own sperm.
These seeds of self-destruction mom sowed in my soul,
first I killed her memory then I broke the hoe.
But now those thorny vines have grown deep roots,
the pain became mine as you tasted my fruits.
With the sweet juice dripping down that wicked grin,
drip slipping down your crooked chin,
I feared you though I never feared no men.
You smelled my fear like I smelled your hate,
I could never relate but now it’s far too late.
I was so scared of being bored but now I’m bored of being scared,
I sold the devil my soul and use my father’s instead.
And I lied about not crying about you
and all those things that I’ve tried without you,
while I wore your grin, while I wandered in sin,
wondering how it could have been, how it should have been,
like how it was back then, before I lost my twin
Still I know I’ll see you again, when we meet up in the light at the end…
situations deep like an abyss,
with this hyperactive vocabulary blitz,
unfamiliar like cinnamon on grits,
all the truth I understand is this,
God lives behind all our faces,
So what a disgrace it is to see
All these racists who still believe in races,
giving power to the labels that divide and displace us,
reactionary like acids and bases,
I’m sick of ignorant complacence,
A new age is dawning, this Aquarius morning,
New thoughts are forming like killer bees swarming,
bruised hearts are longing for something more than
soulless 9-5 until you’re not even alive,
but exploiting dreams is not a means no matter what the end is,
I hope they break me before I bend to fit their Barbie and Ken visions of happiness,
caught up in a trap the moment you kiss,
because if truth is light then society’s the black hole,
and I can’t seem to escape it’s gravitational pull.
So desperate to escape this life without a shape, feeling mentally raped.
Sinking so fast in these sands of time,
losing all my reasons just to find these rhymes.
No shoulders to cry on, no love to survive on, only the lies that go on and on.
So what should I do and to who should I turn,
when the only family I got left is my own sperm.
These seeds of self-destruction mom sowed in my soul,
first I killed her memory then I broke the hoe.
But now those thorny vines have grown deep roots,
the pain became mine as you tasted my fruits.
With the sweet juice dripping down that wicked grin,
drip slipping down your crooked chin,
I feared you though I never feared no men.
You smelled my fear like I smelled your hate,
I could never relate but now it’s far too late.
I was so scared of being bored but now I’m bored of being scared,
I sold the devil my soul and use my father’s instead.
And I lied about not crying about you
and all those things that I’ve tried without you,
while I wore your grin, while I wandered in sin,
wondering how it could have been, how it should have been,
like how it was back then, before I lost my twin
Still I know I’ll see you again, when we meet up in the light at the end…
sorry just fragments
To Whom it May Concern:
One thing attracted me to freemasonry above all else: the ideals of brotherly love, relief and truth. Most significant to me was my conception of brotherly love, overstanding and acting with the knowledge that every living being is a manifestation of the same energy and matter that links us all inextricably. Stardust and electricity. We are all ultimately of the same father and mother regardless of religious beliefs, skin tone, nationality, ancestry, language or wealth. This is the closest thing I have to a religious belief. It is conceived of in many different ways by many different cultures…the golden rule, karma, indra’s web, quantum mechanics, etc…So I expected to find this practiced in freemasonry. That has not been my experience nor my overstanding through research.
In actuality, freemasonry is divided into separate organizations for white and black masons. While “regular” freemasonry accepts or professes to accept men of all creeds and colors, this is not the practice in every lodge, especially in the southeastern US. Prince Hall Freemasonry does not profess to exclude men who are not of African origin and surely men of many ancestries have become Prince Hall masons, yet my experience was not necessarily welcoming either. As to whether women are included in the universal brotherhood of mankind, I kept my opinions to myself while I spent a year visiting two lodges. I think co-masonry and the O.T.O have it right. There is no universal without half the universe. So, I have come to observe and experience the hypocrisy rampant in freemasonry today. I have heard a group of master masons, who held stations in the lodge I visited, chortle with glee over the idea of “nuking every Islami-fascist in the Middle East” and fume over the “greedy entitlement of people of welfare.” I argued against the collective conservative consensus and the secretary of the lodge, one of those involved in the discussion, withdrew his signature from my petition.
&
I wanted to be in their secret society
So badly
I forgot what was inside of me
Questing when
All the answers I seek,
knowledge centuries deep
encoded in my DNA
dormant and asleep
Ruled by lust and desire
My will still weak
Growing more conscious
Of the illusions I see
Devils surround me
Infraconsciously
The imposter inside
Caged within mind
A spark of the divine
Calls upon I & I
To formulate this rhyme
this moment in time
realized
One thing attracted me to freemasonry above all else: the ideals of brotherly love, relief and truth. Most significant to me was my conception of brotherly love, overstanding and acting with the knowledge that every living being is a manifestation of the same energy and matter that links us all inextricably. Stardust and electricity. We are all ultimately of the same father and mother regardless of religious beliefs, skin tone, nationality, ancestry, language or wealth. This is the closest thing I have to a religious belief. It is conceived of in many different ways by many different cultures…the golden rule, karma, indra’s web, quantum mechanics, etc…So I expected to find this practiced in freemasonry. That has not been my experience nor my overstanding through research.
In actuality, freemasonry is divided into separate organizations for white and black masons. While “regular” freemasonry accepts or professes to accept men of all creeds and colors, this is not the practice in every lodge, especially in the southeastern US. Prince Hall Freemasonry does not profess to exclude men who are not of African origin and surely men of many ancestries have become Prince Hall masons, yet my experience was not necessarily welcoming either. As to whether women are included in the universal brotherhood of mankind, I kept my opinions to myself while I spent a year visiting two lodges. I think co-masonry and the O.T.O have it right. There is no universal without half the universe. So, I have come to observe and experience the hypocrisy rampant in freemasonry today. I have heard a group of master masons, who held stations in the lodge I visited, chortle with glee over the idea of “nuking every Islami-fascist in the Middle East” and fume over the “greedy entitlement of people of welfare.” I argued against the collective conservative consensus and the secretary of the lodge, one of those involved in the discussion, withdrew his signature from my petition.
&
I wanted to be in their secret society
So badly
I forgot what was inside of me
Questing when
All the answers I seek,
knowledge centuries deep
encoded in my DNA
dormant and asleep
Ruled by lust and desire
My will still weak
Growing more conscious
Of the illusions I see
Devils surround me
Infraconsciously
The imposter inside
Caged within mind
A spark of the divine
Calls upon I & I
To formulate this rhyme
this moment in time
realized
Friday, January 14, 2005
Vince the Coatimundi
Coatimundis as Companions
Reared in a stimulating environment with adequate interaction and attention the coati will thrive and develop into a most gregarious, intelligent, playful and entertaining creature. These animals are exceptionally intelligent and as such this should be considered when you are looking at the coati for pet. A reasonable amount of time should be allowed for personal interaction & playtime with your coati. Because of their intelligence they can become bored if not kept adequately occupied. Having a coatimundi as a pet is like having a two-year old child in many ways. Coatis are extremely intelligent and inquisitive and very skillful with their hands. There are few handles, clips and knobs they cannot master.
Thursday, January 13, 2005
Ganja
Rastafarians generally believe that the smoking of cannabis (known as ganja or holy herb) enjoys Biblical sanction and is an aid to meditation and religious observance.Biblical verses Rastafarians believe justify the use of herb:
Genesis 1:29 “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.”
Exodus 10:12 "... eat every herb of the land."
Genesis 3:18 "... thou shalt eat the herb of the field."
Proverbs 15:17 "Better is a dinner of herb where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith."
Psalms 104:14 "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man."
Genesis 1:29 “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.”
Exodus 10:12 "... eat every herb of the land."
Genesis 3:18 "... thou shalt eat the herb of the field."
Proverbs 15:17 "Better is a dinner of herb where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith."
Psalms 104:14 "He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle, and herb for the service of man."
Owen & Mzee
NAIROBI: A 120-year-old giant tortoise living in a Kenyan sanctuary has become inseparable from a baby hippo rescued by game wardens.
The year-old hippo calf christened Owen was rescued last month, suffering from dehydration after being separated from his herd in a river that drains into the Indian Ocean.
"When we released Owen into the enclosure, he lumbered to the tortoise which has a dark grey colour similar to grown up hippos," Sabine Baer, rehabilitation and ecosystems manager at the park, told Reuters on Thursday.
She said the hippo's chances of survival in another herd were very slim, predicting that a dominant male would have killed him.
However, Owen's relationship with the Aldabran tortoise named Mzee, Swahili for old man, may end soon. The sanctuary plans to place Owen with Cleo, a lonely female hippo.
Phoenix Lodge Update
This Tuesday, I heard from the newly installed Grand Worshipful Master of the lodge I am petitioning to join. My application had received a priavte objection from a brother. He could not discuss who had objected or what the objections were. The procedure now calls for a sixty day cooling off period, at the end of which the objector can either withdraw or maintain the objection to my membership. I have an idea who is objecting to me, most likely one of the older brothers who I had the heated discourse on world affairs with. The brother who had first signed then withdrew his name from my application told me he would not speak against me when it came time to blackball. I apologized to the brothers who I offended and thought ammends had been made. Now I am unsure whether this is a test to discover my interest and commitment to the craft or just political stonewalling using my weed arrests as an excuse to exclude me...They want me to appear conciliatory and sorry for the mistakes of my past, but the only thing I'm sorry about is that I got caught. I hurt no one and I don't care what the laws say, possessing the dried flowers of a weed is not immoral or wrong. The Great Architect of the Universe must have put it here for some reason, plus Buju Banton says ganja was found in the grave of King Solomon.
Tuesday, January 04, 2005
Sunday, January 02, 2005
Saturday, January 01, 2005
Pantheism
Pantheism, literally, means "God is All" and "All is God". It is the view that everything is of an all-encompassing immanent God; or that the universe, or nature, and God are equivalent. More detailed definitions tend to emphasize the idea that natural law, existence and/or the universe (the sum total of all that is was and shall be) is represented or personified in the theological principle of 'God'.
An oft-cited feature of pantheism is that each individual human, being part of the universe or nature, is part of God. One issue discussed by pantheists is how, if this is so, humans can have free will. In answer, the following analogy is sometimes given (particularly by classical pantheists): "you are to God, as an individual blood cell in your vein is to you." The analogy further maintains that while a cell may be aware of its own environs, and even has some choices (freewill) between right and wrong (killing a bacteria, becoming malignant, or perhaps just doing nothing, among countless others) it likely has little conception of the greater being of which it is a part. Another way to understand this relationship is the Hindu concept of Jiva, wherein the human soul is an aspect of God not yet having reached enlightenment, after which it becomes Atman.
However, it should be noted that not all pantheists accept the idea of free will, with determinism being particularly widespread among naturalistic pantheists. Although individual interpretations of pantheism may suggest certain implications for the nature and existence of free will and/or determinism, pantheism itself does not include any requirement of belief either way. However, the issue is widely discussed, as it is in many other religions and philosophies.
An oft-cited feature of pantheism is that each individual human, being part of the universe or nature, is part of God. One issue discussed by pantheists is how, if this is so, humans can have free will. In answer, the following analogy is sometimes given (particularly by classical pantheists): "you are to God, as an individual blood cell in your vein is to you." The analogy further maintains that while a cell may be aware of its own environs, and even has some choices (freewill) between right and wrong (killing a bacteria, becoming malignant, or perhaps just doing nothing, among countless others) it likely has little conception of the greater being of which it is a part. Another way to understand this relationship is the Hindu concept of Jiva, wherein the human soul is an aspect of God not yet having reached enlightenment, after which it becomes Atman.
However, it should be noted that not all pantheists accept the idea of free will, with determinism being particularly widespread among naturalistic pantheists. Although individual interpretations of pantheism may suggest certain implications for the nature and existence of free will and/or determinism, pantheism itself does not include any requirement of belief either way. However, the issue is widely discussed, as it is in many other religions and philosophies.
US Naval Academy 34 New Mexico 19
Emerald Nuts Bowl, Dec. 30th, SBC Park SF, CA
The Midshipmen (10-2) tied for the most wins in school history, last accomplished when Navy went 10-1-1 in 1905. It was a fitting end for the Mids, some of whom will head off to war in the coming year.
After stopping New Mexico on fourth down with a goal line stand on their own foot line; Navy kept the ball for the next 14 minutes, 26 seconds -- reeling off 26 plays on the drive -- and held New Mexico to only six plays in the fourth quarter.
"I've never heard of a 14-minute drive,'' Lobos coach Rocky Long said. "The strange thing is, we weren't playing bad defense.''
Being part of such a long drive is something players on both sides will remember. Those on the field were exhausted, and those watching also became tired.
"The drive to eat up the whole fourth quarter was huge. It was a great way to play defense,'' Navy coach Paul Johnson said.
Tuesday, December 21, 2004
RAW Course Wrap Chat Transcript
17:07:01 [jonnyg] Good evening Mr. Wilson!!
17:07:09 rllrjammer enters this room
17:07:51 [RAW] good evening jonny 17:08:26
[jonnyg] thanks for this chance to wrap our course up
17:08:51 [RAW] hello mr. rlljammer
17:08:55 [rllrjammer] Hi, everybody.
17:09:23 [RAW] my pleasure. any questions?
17:10:13 [jonnyg] What does the next 5-10 years look like in the future
17:10:45 [jonnyg] are you still hopeful like some of your mid 90s interviews or are you as scared as we are?
17:11:24 [RAW] i don't know. i expect termendous breakthroughs in the sciences and the arts. and in politics i expect nothing.
17:11:52 [jonnyg] art is best left to the utterly miserable
17:12:17 [RAW] at my age you can't get scared anymore.
17:13:05 [rllrjammer] I worry that the breakthroughs in the sciences won't happen fast enough, or be squelched before they can occur.
17:13:08 [RAW] sorry but i disagree. beethoven was not utterly miserable when he wrote the 9th sympathy, for example.
17:13:50 [jonnyg] True...the mistake of a young man who loves to jump to conclusions...in one of your books a feminist professor calls it a hymn to rape though
17:14:11 [RAW] who is going to squelch them, and how? look at history, they break through. 17:15:40 [dan] maybe the true artist has to go underground i think Duchamp said that... 17:15:52 [RAW] she might consider van gogh's "starry sky" as a glorification of serial killers. i think she's nuts.
17:16:23 [jonnyg] I am interested in the kids culture jamming...putting up fake traffic signs, arrows leading to nowhere, anti bush and war propaganda posters all over downtown SF...Has anyone here seen the posters with a stencil of a man's face and the words "OBEY"
17:17:06 [RAW] if you're original enough you'll end up in the underground if you live long enough.
17:17:54 [RAW] that's all a part of operation minkfuck.
17:17:57 [rllrjammer] I hope so. I look at the efforts to stop stem cell research and the attempts to control the quantity and availability of vitamin supplements (and other medicinal products) and think they might be successful. Other times, I'm more optimistic.
17:18:32 [jonnyg] RAW you seem to be a master of intellectual reproduction...you've spent a life researching and learning what interests you...but the amazing thing about it is you seem to have passed on your reality tunnel to all of us...Was thata conscious plan?
17:19:57 [jonnyg] To clarify...it's like your brain is breeding....seducing and mating with all of ours
17:22:28 RAW enters this room
17:23:24 [RAW] the holy inquistion did not stop science. i doubt george bush will do anybetter. 17:23:27 [jonnyg] everyone still here?
17:24:03 [rllrjammer] I'm still here.
17:25:05 [RAW] i think i have a drive to spread my memes the way most men want to spread their genes.
17:25:43 [rllrjammer] The mailman just arrived and left Info-Psychology on my doorstep! 17:26:10 [jonnyg] ME TOO! just kidding
17:26:30 [RAW] i think every writer wants to change people for the better, as far as you can understand what is the better.
17:28:48 [jonnyg] thanks, you have made my reality tunnel a hell of a lot more interesting....I know you hate to play the guru role...but what would you tell someone who wanted to put your memes into action and honor you?
17:30:37 [RAW] putting my memes into action in your life is something only you can understand. i don't know enough about your life situation. there are no general rules. only individual applications.
17:32:09 [jonnyg] What can we do besides sharing your books with friends and discussing them to bring about a more "RAW" style consciousness non aristolean thinking to the masses...I don't want to convert, but I would like more freaky peple to talk to
17:33:19 [RAW] you'll find the freaky people online. don't look in the mass media channels 17:35:06 [jonnyg] what have you experienced in your time on earth that you would tell us not to miss
17:35:22 [dan] yes, you have really made my reality tunnel much broader in what you teach and you'r example in buddhist teachings
17:36:09 [RAW] sex, drugs and rock and roll.
17:37:07 [RAW] buddhism is one of my three favorite religions.
17:37:29 [jonnyg] others?
17:38:13 [RAW] a long happy marriage. if you're lucky.
17:38:48 [RAW] and an apartment with a great ocean view.
17:39:20 [jonnyg] do folks in the OTO really partake of comingled sperm and menstrual fluid in the gnostic catholic mass?
17:39:52 sjburke enters this room
17:41:03 [RAW] depends on which OTO you're talking about. there are 1005 outer heads all leading their own OTOs.
17:41:07 [jonnyg] it makes sense...but it's pretty dissapointing as SECRETS go
17:42:06 [RAW] what's disappointing?
17:43:09 [jonnyg] The caliphate bickering in the east bay...politization of the freemason lodge I visit...people always find a way to mess up idealism with their humanity...And I am the pope 17:43:46 [jonnyg] I just want to get on with the business of creating heaven on earth like your jesuit Benoit
17:45:29 [jonnyg] I can't figure if I'd be better off loving all the assholes into submission or just killing them
17:45:52 [RAW] occult politics, like ordinary politics, shows humanity at its lowest level. i try and ignore it.
17:46:55 [RAW] i believe we have a law against killing all the assholes. if you start at the top, its not even ordinary killing anymore. it's assination.
17:47:09 [jonnyg] have you ever found an organization that satisfies our desire to share and belong and also reconciles the indviduality of each being
17:47:55 [RAW] yes, but it has no name.
17:48:13 [RAW] it just call it "friends".
17:48:53 [jonnyg] How much do you charge for membership?
17:48:58 [sjburke] Maybe you don't have to do either the loving or the killing
17:49:00 [jonnyg] sorry
17:49:50 [jonnyg] SJ?
17:50:20 [RAW] the middle way. more mentation and less munition.
17:50:44 [sjburke] I'm just getting up to speed here. Haven't used chat before
17:51:21 Josh21 enters this room
17:52:04 [Josh21] Hello, sorry I'm coming in late
17:52:11 [RAW] 9 more minutes, good folks, and i must leave the computer.
17:52:27 [sjburke] Buckminster Fullers 'livingry' (instead of weaponry) currently gives me something to do that feels useful and helpful
17:52:46 [jonnyg] If one disagrees with the actions of their gov't, wouldn't it be logical to stop funding their wars and programs...Could a movement to stop paying your taxes have any real effect under our curren monetary system
17:52:47 [RAW] hi josh. btw where is everybody, in geospace?
17:52:59 [Josh21] Well, since I've got 9 min left, thanks, Bob, it's been fun and freaky
17:53:18 [Josh21] I'm in cookeville, tn
17:53:23 [jonnyg] I'm typing for all of em RAW
17:53:38 [rllrjammer] Dublin, California
17:54:01 [sjburke] Everybody, I hope you got mucho from this course. It certainly rocked my monkey world
17:54:14 [RAW] i think it's already happening. there's hints in the media that the irs is 7 years behind auditing forms because there's so much cheeting going on.
17:54:40 [Josh21] I've had a blast-lots of trouble keeping up tho
17:54:40 [sjburke] I'm Melbourne, Australia, in the beautiful sunshine
17:54:49 [jonnyg] Cajah's Mountain, North Caroline at the fiancee's parents(they think I'm anti-social cuz they don't know bout RAW)
17:55:06 [dan] i'm here in old lancaster, P.A.
17:56:45 [sjburke] To keep up with this course, I've had to work with bigger and bigger chunks of info, until I '[arrived" at a colossal 'maybe'.
17:56:46 [RAW] i'm in capitola in my apartment overlooking the pacific bay of the pacific ocean. and i love the view. for more details on the view see "Old man on a balcony" - poems on my site. 17:57:08 [jonnyg] At the risk of being schmaltzy...while I can I'd like to say thanks to RAW...for his books, ideas and the energy to grow them in all of us...RAW you have made me a better human and the world a better place...I love knowing that growing up doesn't mean I'll get "OLD"
17:57:35 [jonnyg] and I love the little bit I know of you
17:57:52 [RAW] thank you thank you thank you
17:57:58 [jonnyg] and everyone in this class...ya'll are sex drugs and rock n roll
17:58:02 [rllrjammer] Jonyg speaks for me, also.
17:58:09 [sjburke] That's not schmaltzy at all jonnyg- I'm right with ya.
17:58:37 [Josh21] I'm with jonnyg too, great point about growing up, not old
17:59:22 [sjburke] I am now officially moved- and I don't mean 'maybe'
17:59:49 [RAW] as betty davis said, old age isn't for sissies. and as george burns said, it's better than the alterative. a hell of a lot better, i think.
18:00:09 [dan] yea.. looking foward to taking the crowley and quantum courses with RAW 18:00:51 [RAW] one final word of advice. live so that people love you. you'll need them when you get old.
18:01:23 [Josh21] thanks for the advice--have fun, bob
18:01:28 [sjburke] I return to my planet now
18:01:30 [RAW] good bye friends. see you in the later courses! -bob
18:01:35 [Josh21] see you next class
18:01:44 [rllrjammer] Thanks so much for everything
18:01:52 RAW exits from this room
18:02:04 [jonnyg] Thanks...I n I will meet again
18:03:54 [Josh21] bye,yall, its been fun
18:04:00 Josh21 exits from this room
18:05:03 [rllrjammer] Bye. everybody. Hope to talk to you all in the next class.
17:07:09 rllrjammer enters this room
17:07:51 [RAW] good evening jonny 17:08:26
[jonnyg] thanks for this chance to wrap our course up
17:08:51 [RAW] hello mr. rlljammer
17:08:55 [rllrjammer] Hi, everybody.
17:09:23 [RAW] my pleasure. any questions?
17:10:13 [jonnyg] What does the next 5-10 years look like in the future
17:10:45 [jonnyg] are you still hopeful like some of your mid 90s interviews or are you as scared as we are?
17:11:24 [RAW] i don't know. i expect termendous breakthroughs in the sciences and the arts. and in politics i expect nothing.
17:11:52 [jonnyg] art is best left to the utterly miserable
17:12:17 [RAW] at my age you can't get scared anymore.
17:13:05 [rllrjammer] I worry that the breakthroughs in the sciences won't happen fast enough, or be squelched before they can occur.
17:13:08 [RAW] sorry but i disagree. beethoven was not utterly miserable when he wrote the 9th sympathy, for example.
17:13:50 [jonnyg] True...the mistake of a young man who loves to jump to conclusions...in one of your books a feminist professor calls it a hymn to rape though
17:14:11 [RAW] who is going to squelch them, and how? look at history, they break through. 17:15:40 [dan] maybe the true artist has to go underground i think Duchamp said that... 17:15:52 [RAW] she might consider van gogh's "starry sky" as a glorification of serial killers. i think she's nuts.
17:16:23 [jonnyg] I am interested in the kids culture jamming...putting up fake traffic signs, arrows leading to nowhere, anti bush and war propaganda posters all over downtown SF...Has anyone here seen the posters with a stencil of a man's face and the words "OBEY"
17:17:06 [RAW] if you're original enough you'll end up in the underground if you live long enough.
17:17:54 [RAW] that's all a part of operation minkfuck.
17:17:57 [rllrjammer] I hope so. I look at the efforts to stop stem cell research and the attempts to control the quantity and availability of vitamin supplements (and other medicinal products) and think they might be successful. Other times, I'm more optimistic.
17:18:32 [jonnyg] RAW you seem to be a master of intellectual reproduction...you've spent a life researching and learning what interests you...but the amazing thing about it is you seem to have passed on your reality tunnel to all of us...Was thata conscious plan?
17:19:57 [jonnyg] To clarify...it's like your brain is breeding....seducing and mating with all of ours
17:22:28 RAW enters this room
17:23:24 [RAW] the holy inquistion did not stop science. i doubt george bush will do anybetter. 17:23:27 [jonnyg] everyone still here?
17:24:03 [rllrjammer] I'm still here.
17:25:05 [RAW] i think i have a drive to spread my memes the way most men want to spread their genes.
17:25:43 [rllrjammer] The mailman just arrived and left Info-Psychology on my doorstep! 17:26:10 [jonnyg] ME TOO! just kidding
17:26:30 [RAW] i think every writer wants to change people for the better, as far as you can understand what is the better.
17:28:48 [jonnyg] thanks, you have made my reality tunnel a hell of a lot more interesting....I know you hate to play the guru role...but what would you tell someone who wanted to put your memes into action and honor you?
17:30:37 [RAW] putting my memes into action in your life is something only you can understand. i don't know enough about your life situation. there are no general rules. only individual applications.
17:32:09 [jonnyg] What can we do besides sharing your books with friends and discussing them to bring about a more "RAW" style consciousness non aristolean thinking to the masses...I don't want to convert, but I would like more freaky peple to talk to
17:33:19 [RAW] you'll find the freaky people online. don't look in the mass media channels 17:35:06 [jonnyg] what have you experienced in your time on earth that you would tell us not to miss
17:35:22 [dan] yes, you have really made my reality tunnel much broader in what you teach and you'r example in buddhist teachings
17:36:09 [RAW] sex, drugs and rock and roll.
17:37:07 [RAW] buddhism is one of my three favorite religions.
17:37:29 [jonnyg] others?
17:38:13 [RAW] a long happy marriage. if you're lucky.
17:38:48 [RAW] and an apartment with a great ocean view.
17:39:20 [jonnyg] do folks in the OTO really partake of comingled sperm and menstrual fluid in the gnostic catholic mass?
17:39:52 sjburke enters this room
17:41:03 [RAW] depends on which OTO you're talking about. there are 1005 outer heads all leading their own OTOs.
17:41:07 [jonnyg] it makes sense...but it's pretty dissapointing as SECRETS go
17:42:06 [RAW] what's disappointing?
17:43:09 [jonnyg] The caliphate bickering in the east bay...politization of the freemason lodge I visit...people always find a way to mess up idealism with their humanity...And I am the pope 17:43:46 [jonnyg] I just want to get on with the business of creating heaven on earth like your jesuit Benoit
17:45:29 [jonnyg] I can't figure if I'd be better off loving all the assholes into submission or just killing them
17:45:52 [RAW] occult politics, like ordinary politics, shows humanity at its lowest level. i try and ignore it.
17:46:55 [RAW] i believe we have a law against killing all the assholes. if you start at the top, its not even ordinary killing anymore. it's assination.
17:47:09 [jonnyg] have you ever found an organization that satisfies our desire to share and belong and also reconciles the indviduality of each being
17:47:55 [RAW] yes, but it has no name.
17:48:13 [RAW] it just call it "friends".
17:48:53 [jonnyg] How much do you charge for membership?
17:48:58 [sjburke] Maybe you don't have to do either the loving or the killing
17:49:00 [jonnyg] sorry
17:49:50 [jonnyg] SJ?
17:50:20 [RAW] the middle way. more mentation and less munition.
17:50:44 [sjburke] I'm just getting up to speed here. Haven't used chat before
17:51:21 Josh21 enters this room
17:52:04 [Josh21] Hello, sorry I'm coming in late
17:52:11 [RAW] 9 more minutes, good folks, and i must leave the computer.
17:52:27 [sjburke] Buckminster Fullers 'livingry' (instead of weaponry) currently gives me something to do that feels useful and helpful
17:52:46 [jonnyg] If one disagrees with the actions of their gov't, wouldn't it be logical to stop funding their wars and programs...Could a movement to stop paying your taxes have any real effect under our curren monetary system
17:52:47 [RAW] hi josh. btw where is everybody, in geospace?
17:52:59 [Josh21] Well, since I've got 9 min left, thanks, Bob, it's been fun and freaky
17:53:18 [Josh21] I'm in cookeville, tn
17:53:23 [jonnyg] I'm typing for all of em RAW
17:53:38 [rllrjammer] Dublin, California
17:54:01 [sjburke] Everybody, I hope you got mucho from this course. It certainly rocked my monkey world
17:54:14 [RAW] i think it's already happening. there's hints in the media that the irs is 7 years behind auditing forms because there's so much cheeting going on.
17:54:40 [Josh21] I've had a blast-lots of trouble keeping up tho
17:54:40 [sjburke] I'm Melbourne, Australia, in the beautiful sunshine
17:54:49 [jonnyg] Cajah's Mountain, North Caroline at the fiancee's parents(they think I'm anti-social cuz they don't know bout RAW)
17:55:06 [dan] i'm here in old lancaster, P.A.
17:56:45 [sjburke] To keep up with this course, I've had to work with bigger and bigger chunks of info, until I '[arrived" at a colossal 'maybe'.
17:56:46 [RAW] i'm in capitola in my apartment overlooking the pacific bay of the pacific ocean. and i love the view. for more details on the view see "Old man on a balcony" - poems on my site. 17:57:08 [jonnyg] At the risk of being schmaltzy...while I can I'd like to say thanks to RAW...for his books, ideas and the energy to grow them in all of us...RAW you have made me a better human and the world a better place...I love knowing that growing up doesn't mean I'll get "OLD"
17:57:35 [jonnyg] and I love the little bit I know of you
17:57:52 [RAW] thank you thank you thank you
17:57:58 [jonnyg] and everyone in this class...ya'll are sex drugs and rock n roll
17:58:02 [rllrjammer] Jonyg speaks for me, also.
17:58:09 [sjburke] That's not schmaltzy at all jonnyg- I'm right with ya.
17:58:37 [Josh21] I'm with jonnyg too, great point about growing up, not old
17:59:22 [sjburke] I am now officially moved- and I don't mean 'maybe'
17:59:49 [RAW] as betty davis said, old age isn't for sissies. and as george burns said, it's better than the alterative. a hell of a lot better, i think.
18:00:09 [dan] yea.. looking foward to taking the crowley and quantum courses with RAW 18:00:51 [RAW] one final word of advice. live so that people love you. you'll need them when you get old.
18:01:23 [Josh21] thanks for the advice--have fun, bob
18:01:28 [sjburke] I return to my planet now
18:01:30 [RAW] good bye friends. see you in the later courses! -bob
18:01:35 [Josh21] see you next class
18:01:44 [rllrjammer] Thanks so much for everything
18:01:52 RAW exits from this room
18:02:04 [jonnyg] Thanks...I n I will meet again
18:03:54 [Josh21] bye,yall, its been fun
18:04:00 Josh21 exits from this room
18:05:03 [rllrjammer] Bye. everybody. Hope to talk to you all in the next class.
Saturday, December 11, 2004
RAW did you write this or is it a quote??
consider this from Robert Anton Wilson's "The Widow's Son"...Wilson is either quoting from a defense of freemasonry by a priest named Henri Benoit around 1797 or he wrote a beautiful summary of the purpose of speculative masonry
RAW if it is a quote can you provide some context, like where you found it and what you think of it...
If it is your words...wow...thats my next tattoo
RAW:
I wrote it...trying to imagine why an intelligent
18th Century Jesuit wd become a freemason
The fun of writing fiction, like acting, lies
in escaping yr.self and becoming an Italian
terrorist, a bisexual nobleman, a
shaman etc- even a Jesuit mason...
JG:
What a perfect demonstration of cosmic mind, indra's net and all the other FRED we've been ranting about...I think therefore I am?
Is the only barrier to experiencing "mystical oneness" your imagination?
As a gemini, I pride myself on adapting to or adjusting myself to fit any situation...even if it means acting or taking up views I don't usually...Whether my inspriation is a fictional character (Sigismundo) or a "real" person I admire, I really enjoy the attempt to jump into other reality tunnels. Many times I lose sight of who/what I was before the acting, mimicking, adaptation began and end up incorporating it into myself as another aspect of my personal experience. I find this especially helpful as a salesman since mirroring the accent, tone and mood of my clients seems to sell more than being "myself"
BM:
Pacing and Leading, hey Johnny G? Do you know any NLP theory, or are you just a 'natural'?
[I am not being offensive - that very question (or are you just what we call a 'natural'?) was asked of me by a committee member when I applied to The Arts Council for a training bursary to study mime...and they saw how little formal training I had, in spite of an extended resume as a performer. It's a snobbery against 'circus arts' that they don't consider them 'arts' when it comes to funding!]
JG:
If so...all I know about it I read in RAW's books...I googled it some and it looks like many corporations have turned it into a sales/marketing training course/tool...I have had no training and would love to consider myself a natural...but most of my luck with this stuff is from mimicing my environment or company.
Have lived in in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Florida, Hawaii, North Carolina, Mexico for spells which has blurred my natural accent to the point where most say I don't have one.
When I lived in Hawaii, they hated haoles so I affected a pidgin english accent to seem more "local"
When I lived in Mexico, I had lighter skin than most so I incorporated as much slang and border spanglish into my vocab to gain the confidence of co-workers and neighbors.
Whenever I visit my fiancee's parents in rural north carolina, I develop a keen interest in NASCAR, BBQ and a slow drawl to not seem so alien to her parents
My college friend James is from Trinidad and speaks "proper english" which I imitated whenever we hung out...so when his folks came for graduation I put on the accent and they thought I must be from Trinidad too.
The funny thing is...I can't just throw on a accent or demeanor at the drop of a hat or request...I need about a minute or so to absorb whatever I want to mimic before I can project it myself.
Bogus, can you speak on some of your experiences/training with NLP and the"circus arts"?
BM:
| Quote: |
| ..."Every Christian, of every sect, prays in church on Sunday, "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, ON EARTH as it is in heaven." Not one in a thousand stops to think what these words mean; not one in ten thousand dares to imagine that they could mean exactly what they say...Speculative Masonry is the coherent will of all those committed to the Great Work of achieving the meaning of the Lord's Prayer, so that the mind of the Great Architect of the Universe will be manifest, not only in the marvelous harmony of the stars at night but in the daily lives of men and women everywhere- on earth as it is in heaven." |
RAW if it is a quote can you provide some context, like where you found it and what you think of it...
If it is your words...wow...thats my next tattoo
RAW:
I wrote it...trying to imagine why an intelligent
18th Century Jesuit wd become a freemason
The fun of writing fiction, like acting, lies
in escaping yr.self and becoming an Italian
terrorist, a bisexual nobleman, a
shaman etc- even a Jesuit mason...
JG:
What a perfect demonstration of cosmic mind, indra's net and all the other FRED we've been ranting about...I think therefore I am?
Is the only barrier to experiencing "mystical oneness" your imagination?
As a gemini, I pride myself on adapting to or adjusting myself to fit any situation...even if it means acting or taking up views I don't usually...Whether my inspriation is a fictional character (Sigismundo) or a "real" person I admire, I really enjoy the attempt to jump into other reality tunnels. Many times I lose sight of who/what I was before the acting, mimicking, adaptation began and end up incorporating it into myself as another aspect of my personal experience. I find this especially helpful as a salesman since mirroring the accent, tone and mood of my clients seems to sell more than being "myself"
BM:
Pacing and Leading, hey Johnny G? Do you know any NLP theory, or are you just a 'natural'?
[I am not being offensive - that very question (or are you just what we call a 'natural'?) was asked of me by a committee member when I applied to The Arts Council for a training bursary to study mime...and they saw how little formal training I had, in spite of an extended resume as a performer. It's a snobbery against 'circus arts' that they don't consider them 'arts' when it comes to funding!]
JG:
If so...all I know about it I read in RAW's books...I googled it some and it looks like many corporations have turned it into a sales/marketing training course/tool...I have had no training and would love to consider myself a natural...but most of my luck with this stuff is from mimicing my environment or company.
Have lived in in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Florida, Hawaii, North Carolina, Mexico for spells which has blurred my natural accent to the point where most say I don't have one.
When I lived in Hawaii, they hated haoles so I affected a pidgin english accent to seem more "local"
When I lived in Mexico, I had lighter skin than most so I incorporated as much slang and border spanglish into my vocab to gain the confidence of co-workers and neighbors.
Whenever I visit my fiancee's parents in rural north carolina, I develop a keen interest in NASCAR, BBQ and a slow drawl to not seem so alien to her parents
My college friend James is from Trinidad and speaks "proper english" which I imitated whenever we hung out...so when his folks came for graduation I put on the accent and they thought I must be from Trinidad too.
The funny thing is...I can't just throw on a accent or demeanor at the drop of a hat or request...I need about a minute or so to absorb whatever I want to mimic before I can project it myself.
Bogus, can you speak on some of your experiences/training with NLP and the"circus arts"?
BM:
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Saturday, December 04, 2004
Friday, December 03, 2004
I n I
I and I is a complex term, referring to the oneness of Jah (God) and every human. Rastafarian scholar E. E. Cashmore: "I and I is an expression to totalize the concept of oneness, the oneness of two persons. So God is within all of us and we're one people in fact. I and I means that God is in all men. The bond of Ras Tafari is the bond of God, of man. But man itself needs a head and the head of man is His Imperial Majesty Haile Selassie I of Ethiopia." The term is often used in place of "you and I" or "we" among Rastafarians, implying that both persons are united under the love of Jah.
Saturday, November 27, 2004
Wednesday, November 24, 2004
My New Operative Framework
The "secrets" of masonry have all been exposed and are readily available via net or book...
These secrets mean nothing to most people...who lack the framwork/context in which they can be understood
Masonry could be viewed as primal psychology/therapy or preparation for trancendence in that its degrees and rituals help the initiate to realize the "secrets" he seeks are already inside of him.
Only through self-searching, meditation and right action(living up to human potential) can these "secrets" be understood
The allegory and symbolism of freemasonry is both a mask and an x-ray machine...it conceals meaning superficially but under careful examination reveals all
These secrets mean nothing to most people...who lack the framwork/context in which they can be understood
Masonry could be viewed as primal psychology/therapy or preparation for trancendence in that its degrees and rituals help the initiate to realize the "secrets" he seeks are already inside of him.
Only through self-searching, meditation and right action(living up to human potential) can these "secrets" be understood
The allegory and symbolism of freemasonry is both a mask and an x-ray machine...it conceals meaning superficially but under careful examination reveals all
JFM3 thinks Mason Lodges were the first gay bars
I always thought of the masonic society as a kind of social club for gays that eventually spun out of control.
Think about it. You're a gay man in europe 250 years ago. How are you going to find dates? There must have been some kind of secret society with special handshakes and signals which one could use to locate other gays without raising unwanted attention.
Now your gay club gets found out: "Um, no officer, we were all shirtless because we're in a kind of special club, acting out a morality play ... yes, we all believe in God ... um, we were doing "initiations", that impart uh ... special knowledge ... why certainly you can be a member, I can tell your a man of good report and ... uh, what? no, you can't go back there, it's only for, um, 33rd degree masons..." So now you have a social club for regular guys that's a front for your gay bar. Imagine how weird it all must have seen from there.
This is clearly what Crowley was doing with the O.T.O., at least along one axis of analysis.
Bogus Magus:
hahahahahaha jfm3 that's brilliant!
I am not sure if it has to be 'gay' exactly, though. I have always found that male-bonding thing to be more prevalent with macho males. I live in Wales now, and sombunall men's favourite pastime is to go out and play rugby (roughly, American football without armour) rolling around in the mud and grabbing each other - then they all go and mess around in the showers or a communal plunge pool, and then go get drunk and sing with their arms around each other. Suggest to them that they prefer the company of men to their wives and girl-friends though, and you'll really get into trouble.
Whereas, sombunall gay guys actually live the life those macho's only dream or brag about - having sex with a whole bunch of different people, picking up strangers with no hassle, coming several times a day, etc.
Does anyone know if anyone has written an 'alternative history' - to include kings, and occult groups, politics and religion - from a gay perspective?
Think about it. You're a gay man in europe 250 years ago. How are you going to find dates? There must have been some kind of secret society with special handshakes and signals which one could use to locate other gays without raising unwanted attention.
Now your gay club gets found out: "Um, no officer, we were all shirtless because we're in a kind of special club, acting out a morality play ... yes, we all believe in God ... um, we were doing "initiations", that impart uh ... special knowledge ... why certainly you can be a member, I can tell your a man of good report and ... uh, what? no, you can't go back there, it's only for, um, 33rd degree masons..." So now you have a social club for regular guys that's a front for your gay bar. Imagine how weird it all must have seen from there.
This is clearly what Crowley was doing with the O.T.O., at least along one axis of analysis.
Bogus Magus:
hahahahahaha jfm3 that's brilliant!
I am not sure if it has to be 'gay' exactly, though. I have always found that male-bonding thing to be more prevalent with macho males. I live in Wales now, and sombunall men's favourite pastime is to go out and play rugby (roughly, American football without armour) rolling around in the mud and grabbing each other - then they all go and mess around in the showers or a communal plunge pool, and then go get drunk and sing with their arms around each other. Suggest to them that they prefer the company of men to their wives and girl-friends though, and you'll really get into trouble.
Whereas, sombunall gay guys actually live the life those macho's only dream or brag about - having sex with a whole bunch of different people, picking up strangers with no hassle, coming several times a day, etc.
Does anyone know if anyone has written an 'alternative history' - to include kings, and occult groups, politics and religion - from a gay perspective?
Bogus Magus Asks...
BM:
Are we now assuming that Bob is an initiated Mason, or can we allow that he is a creative writer who does thorough research and then applies his imagination?
And if that seemed sufficient for him, can you see any need to really act it out?
Not being sarcastic - just curious...
I am aware that 'imagining tripping' might not be enough...even if people who have tripped can't always explain quite what they experienced or why they thought it an important event...
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JG:
wow...you got me...great point bogus
I don't know...the tripping analogy is really good too...is it just curiosity or ego or will to power? I was going to say I just want to KNOW, but maybe the better word is EXPERIENCE. I want to experience the rituals for myself...and draw my own conclusions and inferences from them...Study and reading and meditation are effective for cultivating the spirit of masonry in my everyday life...but maybe I want the shared experience, the common reference point in reality tunnels with other seekers.
I don't know if RAW would say if he is a mason...the masons I most admire don't advertise it...and don't need to. RAW's writings and the spirit of questioning without seeking conclusion he seems to possess inpsire me to live masonically whether or not I ever get accepted into a lodge
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BM:
h I agree that you should have the experience if you want it - I took acid way back when because I wanted to 'know' (or even just to experience my OWN confusion, rather than merely read about other people's reported experiences).
And I have a MYOB attitude to who 'is' a Mason, or 'is' gay, or owes a lot of money (or anything private). After all, in the E-Prime world I can only ask whether Bob 'has been through masonic initiations'.
That leaves it open as to whether the people running the rituals knew what they were doing (were entitled and part of a valid tradition) and also whether the initiate was doing it out of curiosity or some 'genuine' quest. And whether those binding oaths had any lasting effect, or can be shrugged off when you no longer believe (I have noticed that, for instance, those binding marriage oaths - 'till death do us part' seem to have lost their power, in the modern world).
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JG:
That depends on what your definition of Is is...
Hard to break myself of the is habit...seems easier to slap a label on everything so I don't have to analyze too deeply and can make quicker decisions. But the MYOB attitude is my own as well...a friend of mine told me he had faced some stiff resistance in our lodge when he married his partner. he didn't announce it or anything, but the same guys I had trouble with were always asking if he'd met any hot girls or offering to take him out for drinks and hunting. So he was forced to bite his tongue until he went through his initiation, and even now is carefulabout who he talks to in lodge...This really takes away from the spirit I was seeking in masonry, tolerance & the brotherhood of all men should include radicals, men who love men and women too if you ask me...But I'll have to learn to keep it shut and conform in outward appearance and manner if I want to experience a ritual.
That brings me to a point you raised...
Quote:
That leaves it open as to whether the people running the rituals knew what they were doing (were entitled and part of a valid tradition) and also whether the initiate was doing it out of curiosity or some 'genuine' quest
Are men who claim to be masons, yet ignore the principles which masonry would seem to be built upon, qualified to give degrees...It would seem a requisite for giving degrees would be an understanding of them and the message they carry...If one is unable to translate that message into something personally meaningful and then put that into action in their lives what kind of mason are they? And how can they pass what doesn't exist on to anyone else, regardless of whether they have a valid "connection" to the craft.
BTW...I dropped acid last saturday and read degree rituals and masonry books for 36 hours straight without sleeping...maybe that's part of the problem...
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Are we now assuming that Bob is an initiated Mason, or can we allow that he is a creative writer who does thorough research and then applies his imagination?
And if that seemed sufficient for him, can you see any need to really act it out?
Not being sarcastic - just curious...
I am aware that 'imagining tripping' might not be enough...even if people who have tripped can't always explain quite what they experienced or why they thought it an important event...
_________________
JG:
wow...you got me...great point bogus
I don't know...the tripping analogy is really good too...is it just curiosity or ego or will to power? I was going to say I just want to KNOW, but maybe the better word is EXPERIENCE. I want to experience the rituals for myself...and draw my own conclusions and inferences from them...Study and reading and meditation are effective for cultivating the spirit of masonry in my everyday life...but maybe I want the shared experience, the common reference point in reality tunnels with other seekers.
I don't know if RAW would say if he is a mason...the masons I most admire don't advertise it...and don't need to. RAW's writings and the spirit of questioning without seeking conclusion he seems to possess inpsire me to live masonically whether or not I ever get accepted into a lodge
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BM:
h I agree that you should have the experience if you want it - I took acid way back when because I wanted to 'know' (or even just to experience my OWN confusion, rather than merely read about other people's reported experiences).
And I have a MYOB attitude to who 'is' a Mason, or 'is' gay, or owes a lot of money (or anything private). After all, in the E-Prime world I can only ask whether Bob 'has been through masonic initiations'.
That leaves it open as to whether the people running the rituals knew what they were doing (were entitled and part of a valid tradition) and also whether the initiate was doing it out of curiosity or some 'genuine' quest. And whether those binding oaths had any lasting effect, or can be shrugged off when you no longer believe (I have noticed that, for instance, those binding marriage oaths - 'till death do us part' seem to have lost their power, in the modern world).
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JG:
That depends on what your definition of Is is...
Hard to break myself of the is habit...seems easier to slap a label on everything so I don't have to analyze too deeply and can make quicker decisions. But the MYOB attitude is my own as well...a friend of mine told me he had faced some stiff resistance in our lodge when he married his partner. he didn't announce it or anything, but the same guys I had trouble with were always asking if he'd met any hot girls or offering to take him out for drinks and hunting. So he was forced to bite his tongue until he went through his initiation, and even now is carefulabout who he talks to in lodge...This really takes away from the spirit I was seeking in masonry, tolerance & the brotherhood of all men should include radicals, men who love men and women too if you ask me...But I'll have to learn to keep it shut and conform in outward appearance and manner if I want to experience a ritual.
That brings me to a point you raised...
Quote:
That leaves it open as to whether the people running the rituals knew what they were doing (were entitled and part of a valid tradition) and also whether the initiate was doing it out of curiosity or some 'genuine' quest
Are men who claim to be masons, yet ignore the principles which masonry would seem to be built upon, qualified to give degrees...It would seem a requisite for giving degrees would be an understanding of them and the message they carry...If one is unable to translate that message into something personally meaningful and then put that into action in their lives what kind of mason are they? And how can they pass what doesn't exist on to anyone else, regardless of whether they have a valid "connection" to the craft.
BTW...I dropped acid last saturday and read degree rituals and masonry books for 36 hours straight without sleeping...maybe that's part of the problem...
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Further Adventures in Masonry
my maternal great grandfather was also a mason but he also died before I was born...
I posted my experience right after it happened last Thursday night...On Friday I got a call from the Worshipful Master about to be installed
He and I had a good talk and told me that even if I was not interested in pursuing masonry further I would be wise to make peace with the 2 brothers I had conflict with. I agreed and asked him if I was welcome to return next thursday...I plan on going back an apologizing for bringing my politics into the lodge and for losing control of my passions, I will not apologize for my politics or ideals so we'll see how it goes. He asked me what brought me to masonry, what I am seeking and what I expect...the last question gave me some pause and I admitted I had no idea...I would be swearing oaths to secrecy on something which I KNOW NOTHING....he insinuated that most of masonry's secrets are readily available to anyone looking, especially the rituals so I spent all day readin the first 3 entered apprentice, fellow craft and master mason...The problem is just as I told the worhsipful master, NO LACK OF INFORMATION...BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE?
I formally apologized to 2 brothers for bringing my politics into lodge and letting my passion get the better of my reason. Most of the others had gotten wind of my "showdown in the kitchen" & thought the whole deal was BS. I went home feeling good cuz I had done what my dad would have expected me to...I admitted my trespass, but I stayed true to who I am and what i believe(weird choice of words, eh?). I could never apologize for what I think, even if I should think a little more before my mouth throws it out into other people reality tunnels. I readliy admitted that I had been hot-headed...hell that was one of the reasons I am going to lodge in the first place...to circumscribe my passions with restraint...tempus loquendi, tempus tacendi....The Master Masons to whom I was trying to explain why nuking the entire Middle East is not a really Masonic thing to do should know a little better, they live in San Francisco. I offered the Deacon the chance to whiteout his signature off my app and turned me down...It only takes one blackball vote to keep me out, but I'll choose being turned away over giving up any day of the week. I brought the first three degree rituals that I had printed off an anti-masonic website into lodge and showed the worshipful master of a lodge in Hawaii to see if they were the real deal...He said they sure as shit were...then I asked him if he had read RAW's description of a degree ritual in The Earth Will Shake...he laughed and said it was the best he's ever read because it wasn't just scripted lines like a play...but captured the setting, emotion and experience as best can be put to paper...I can't wait to see what all the fuss is about if I get the chance
I posted my experience right after it happened last Thursday night...On Friday I got a call from the Worshipful Master about to be installed
He and I had a good talk and told me that even if I was not interested in pursuing masonry further I would be wise to make peace with the 2 brothers I had conflict with. I agreed and asked him if I was welcome to return next thursday...I plan on going back an apologizing for bringing my politics into the lodge and for losing control of my passions, I will not apologize for my politics or ideals so we'll see how it goes. He asked me what brought me to masonry, what I am seeking and what I expect...the last question gave me some pause and I admitted I had no idea...I would be swearing oaths to secrecy on something which I KNOW NOTHING....he insinuated that most of masonry's secrets are readily available to anyone looking, especially the rituals so I spent all day readin the first 3 entered apprentice, fellow craft and master mason...The problem is just as I told the worhsipful master, NO LACK OF INFORMATION...BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO TO BELIEVE?
I formally apologized to 2 brothers for bringing my politics into lodge and letting my passion get the better of my reason. Most of the others had gotten wind of my "showdown in the kitchen" & thought the whole deal was BS. I went home feeling good cuz I had done what my dad would have expected me to...I admitted my trespass, but I stayed true to who I am and what i believe(weird choice of words, eh?). I could never apologize for what I think, even if I should think a little more before my mouth throws it out into other people reality tunnels. I readliy admitted that I had been hot-headed...hell that was one of the reasons I am going to lodge in the first place...to circumscribe my passions with restraint...tempus loquendi, tempus tacendi....The Master Masons to whom I was trying to explain why nuking the entire Middle East is not a really Masonic thing to do should know a little better, they live in San Francisco. I offered the Deacon the chance to whiteout his signature off my app and turned me down...It only takes one blackball vote to keep me out, but I'll choose being turned away over giving up any day of the week. I brought the first three degree rituals that I had printed off an anti-masonic website into lodge and showed the worshipful master of a lodge in Hawaii to see if they were the real deal...He said they sure as shit were...then I asked him if he had read RAW's description of a degree ritual in The Earth Will Shake...he laughed and said it was the best he's ever read because it wasn't just scripted lines like a play...but captured the setting, emotion and experience as best can be put to paper...I can't wait to see what all the fuss is about if I get the chance
Monday, November 08, 2004
What would Jesus Do? (...if he were president)
Would Jesus spend $140 BILLION ON WAR when a single child in any nation goes hungry?
Would Jesus ever invade another country?
What about to preempt a danger that turned out not to exist?
Would Jesus continue to occupy this country for over a year (so far) and institute martial law on its people?
Would Jesus offer a no-bid contract to Halliburton to profit off this occupation at the expense of US taxpayers?
Would Jesus pay the truck drivers and janitors and line cooks imported from the far corners of the world the SAME OR MORE than his own soldiers?
Would Jesus physically and psychologically TORTURE other humans held as
Prisoners of War?
Would Jesus hold men prisoner for YEARS without facing charges?
Would Jesus turn an unpopular minority into a scapegoat for the real problems with the country?
Does Jesus ever say he hates GAYS or MUSLIMS anywhere in the new testament?
Would Jesus be in favor of laws that stand in the way of two people who love each other?
Would Jesus give a tax break to corporations and the rich?
Could Jesus forgive a man who pridefully refused to admit his sins and trespasses?
Would Jesus ever invade another country?
What about to preempt a danger that turned out not to exist?
Would Jesus continue to occupy this country for over a year (so far) and institute martial law on its people?
Would Jesus offer a no-bid contract to Halliburton to profit off this occupation at the expense of US taxpayers?
Would Jesus pay the truck drivers and janitors and line cooks imported from the far corners of the world the SAME OR MORE than his own soldiers?
Would Jesus physically and psychologically TORTURE other humans held as
Prisoners of War?
Would Jesus hold men prisoner for YEARS without facing charges?
Would Jesus turn an unpopular minority into a scapegoat for the real problems with the country?
Does Jesus ever say he hates GAYS or MUSLIMS anywhere in the new testament?
Would Jesus be in favor of laws that stand in the way of two people who love each other?
Would Jesus give a tax break to corporations and the rich?
Could Jesus forgive a man who pridefully refused to admit his sins and trespasses?
Sunday, November 07, 2004
Sunday, October 24, 2004
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